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Do you think consensual incest will ever be legalized in all 50 states?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by TNAV49, Sep 27, 2021.

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  1. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    The addition and truth to that is that the liberals would demand a law that anyone could marry any living animal.
    Hey, they consider humans nothing more than an advanced animal.
     
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  2. Cockhamockthongboi

    Cockhamockthongboi New Member

    Couldn’t of put it better. They’re stealing womens abortion rights already.
     
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  3. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    They do it by voting. If you want things to go a different way, get a bunch of like minded people to vote the other way. If you can get more people to vote the other way, you win. If you can't, you lose. That's democracy, if you don't want to accept that, you are anti-democratic. It's not what you think is right or what you think is wrong, it's what you can get the most people to agree with.
     
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  4. behanchod

    behanchod Incest lover

    Let incest remain prohibited, otherwise it will loose the charm of taboo. If it is legalized, the sensation of fucking someone of family will be same as fucking your wife or girl friend. The taboo makes it special.
     
  5. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Then how about this. The districts are drawn large population centers out. Not sparse areas in, cutting up 60% of the population into 19 different "districts" that are 19 slices of a city. Look at EVERY STATE pretty much. There is no reason for a LOT of the weird shapes that are made. That includes NY and CA too.

    That said, while on this, a bit of a tangent. Rs will lose in NY this time for one reason. Too many idiots trying to suplant Ds saying shit like Nassau, Suffolk, Kings, Queens, New York, Bronx, Richmond, Westchester and Rockland should each get one ELECTOR and each of the other counties (53) should also get one. So that Cow and Woods NY (where I live) gets an equal say to the 9 counties that make up 70+% of the state population. I swear to you. If they found someone with Romney level sensible shit (Geroge Pitaki)? They could win in NY. They keep putting up Super Mega Ultra Conservatives instead and then wonder why they lose. Hochul. Who is a shit governor? Will likely win because her opponent is just that much worse.
     
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  6. Incs

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    Let me guess, that's your argument when "democracy" goes your way, usually by gerrymandering, electoral college nonsense, or ridiculous democratic imbalances in the senate. But when voters go the other way, you will scream about "basic rights". You know, like women controlling their own body? Or is it about owning guns without restrictions for you?
     
  7. dreamingzzz

    dreamingzzz Account Deleted

    It will happen in our lifetime. Groupthink has never brought change and it will never bring change.

    There has been mass conditioning with the step sibling porn but this wont bring change.

    Inbreeding with malnutrition does lead to an increase in genetic defects. The general population is already malnourished and unhealthy due to consuming grains and the various deficiencies of fat soluble vitamins.

    Did you succeed with impregnating your sister?
     
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  8. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    Nothing I said had any reference to any side, it is your own personal desires. And every case of Gerrymandering I've run into was perpetrated by the Democrats.
     
  9. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    I made zero reference to gerrymandering. It was just general democratic principles. You seem to be making reference to a system of a republic.
     
  10. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    But that is only partially true with the USA.
    We are a Republic, not a Democracy.
    Not only might our elected Reps vote against the majority, the Judicial Branch, State and Federal, can pause or shoot down any
    law that the majority wants.

    This whole bullshit of all the Democrats screaming some of the acts by Republicans are trying to destroy our Democracy seem to have no
    fucking clue how a Republic works.

    Their screams are for political clout with the ignorant (i.e. Stupid) voters who also have no fucking clue we are not a Democracy.

    So the idea that incest can be legal in all states is for all reasoning, not going to happen.
    There are too many Representatives who will vote their belief on the matter, even if the
    majority of those in their district are for it.
     
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  11. tannerhtx

    tannerhtx Account Deleted

    I feel like it could’ve been decades ago, as of 2022 and beyond .. I don’t think so.
     
  12. MooseXL

    MooseXL Trusted Member

    I would certainly hope so.
     
  13. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Problem is that happened. But since the Corporate Media and Poll Groups were downplaying Abortion law impact and up-playing "inflation inflation inflation"? People are already claiming fraud. Because the polls from last week dont match the results.

    Now my polls rant. We really still rely on:

    Who does not tell the guys in a mall to F off

    Who does not hang up on auto dialers

    Who clicks on Social Media Poll links

    Who does not delete poll emails

    In addition we blindly accept that the pollsters are not sending these to tainted samples. What do I mean? If I want dominantly "The price of a gallon"? I will poll in red areas. Truckers. People with long commutes. Etc. Dont get me started on the study that started the whole "Vaccines cause autism" and the fact that doctor is no long a DOCTOR based on the fact he was caught doing a study then just throwing out most of the data that didnt fit.

    I seriously read someone write today that NY should not elect Governor and Senators via DIRECT ELECTION. They should be done via an "electoral vote" where each county gets one vote. So that 70% of the state (9 counties) pop gets 9 votes and 30% (27 counties) get 27. Because, they want to as I corrected them because they kept blathering about "True NYers", the farmers and the twits who have been sitting upstate in abject poverty believing local politicians that the mills and factories will be back any minute rather than getting other skills should have the power in the state. Their complaint is that, their words, these "real NYERS cant do what their great grand dad did for a living like his dad and his dad". The literal argument used for why we should block cars, because the horseshoe makers and horse breaders and sellers. The carriage makers. Why we should block electricity and light bulb. The oil lamp makers will suffer. As I have said elsewhere. There is a point where we need to adapt and stop demanding "like it was back then" be honored too when it comes to industries. Computers came along. There is no reason to do everything with "pen and paper" anymore (yes in certain things you do that and then scan it too) because that is how your father and his father did it.
     
  14. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    To be fair? Anytime a judge shoots down a law Rs like they immediately take to the air screaming about activist judges. Acting like the Judicial Branch's only job is to walk across the road and ask the Legislature what they meant and rule as such.

    I will give you an example. I say this over and over. Let abortion be a state's rights thing. But remember. State's rights end at the State Border. They do not extend to other states based on it being written in your state law. I will use the TX Abortion law. You can "sue" a NY MD in TX court as much as you want. And NY can just pass a law saying that "NY courts must approve all non federal lawsuits involving abortion filed under state laws outside NY" or literally immunize all MDs in NY from indemnity in that suits and TX has no real recourse. TX also can not pass a law (I know it is not, I am using this as a further example of something a state COULD try in theory) that says that any doctor who does an abortion in another state on a TX resident outside their law can be prosecuted in TX for doing it, in another state. All state laws end at that state line. Or we have to admit this is not about states rights. Because State's Rights is not about passing nationally applying laws "in my state".
     
  15. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    Be fair now with that. It is not just the Rs, it happens just as much with the Ds.
    It is screamed by the Rs more because it is the Dem Judges who do most of the legistlating from the bench.

    The problem is we have too many judges legislating from the bench. That is NOT supposed to be their job.
     
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  16. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Their job is to interpret and strike law as their check and balance on the legislature. Their job is NOT to find that "That is the law right now. Don't like it? Vote. Maybe some day they will choose to take the time to reverse it.". The court can strike a law. Whether or not the "people" want that law anyway. The "people" in the South resoundingly wanted slavery too.

    Lets also address this one. I will use FL as a great example. The voters overwhelmingly voted for convicts who serve their full sentence to get voting rights back in a referendum. After a few years of stalling? The FL legislature passed it into law. With the add ons of "after also paying us back the FULL cost of their incarceration, parole adminstration, probation, etc.". That is not what the referendum that was passed said. But the Legislature decided they got their way or the people could go to hell. Do you think the people should just "keep voting till they change it, if they ever choose to, because the court striking part of it would be "legislating from bench"!"?
     
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  17. Dane

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    SCOTUS has put some lawful decisions entirely back into the hands of the state, but when a law is passed that DOES NOT conflict with the
    US Constitution, some judge-who are supposed to be impartial- but because they are of a political party against that state law, they
    legislate from the bench and put a stop to the passed law.
    You know this happens.
    Case in point is the restriction on firearms. The Democrat backed judges ALWAYS try to put a stop to, and some succeed, in reversing
    a lawful law passed by the people and signed into law by the Govenor (or an over-ridden veto).

    OH has one going on now. OH Sup Ct ruled it is un-constitutional for cities to enact restrictive gun laws as the state law is in
    the state constitution. But a Democrat based judge has done in anyway.

    https://www.dispatch.com/story/news...tate-gun-law-at-columbus-request/69616465007/

    He ruled the city of Columbus CAN enact overly restrictive laws, totally against the OH SupCt ruling. The County attorney told the council that wants to do so, to go ahead and pass said laws.

    These fucking judges put themselves above the Supreme Court and eats up the SC of OH's time dealing with other cases that need addressed.
    Legislating from the bench in these un-winnable situations should result in disciplinary actions against those judges including being
    removed from the bench.

    That would have them thinking twice before just doing what their party affiliation is, as they are not supposed to be party affiliated,
    but you know they are.
     
  18. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    You know damned well I subscribe to the 2nd Amendment theory of "government can have it we are supposed to be able to as well". I also argue that "If you want to play "what is in the text"? It does not say anywhere 'a citizen in good standing since birth........'." So any judge that upholds that felons cant have guns? Guess they are "activists" too then by that definition. Because the Constitution does not say anywhere that you lose the right to bear arms if the government convicts you of a crime.

    But while on that? The worst legislation from the bench ever though was Qualified Immunity. For those who dont know what that is. Here it is in a nut shell. I shit you not, this was a REAL CASE. Cops come to investigate a crime. Literally STEAL from the suspects. It was PROVEN that there was a discrepency of close to a quarter of a million between the location and evidence. The "evidence room" side was returned. But the "missing"? They were told it was never taken. When it was PROVEN the cops took it and kept it? They were fired. When sued? The Circuit and Appeals court ruled "There is no case law that SPECIFICALLY established in THIS circuit that an officer can not steal during an investigation and be held personally liable WHILE ON DUTY, BEFORE Qualified Immunity was created. Therefore Qualified Immunity applies here and the officers can not be held personally liable.". Yes. QI is literally a USSC "Law" created that says, quite literally, "As of today, if there is not a Circuit decision clearly establishing something is a constitutional violation? Government Employees and Police in the course of their job are immune from personal liability for it. No new case law can be established to remove QI.". I am waiting for the fist Police Union Lawsuit from the states and cities starting to pass laws striking QI in those places, and the inevitable USSC Case finding "NO! NO! NO! We said they are immune! You cant pass laws that they are not immune! We said they are immune! How can they do their jobs if they can get SUED for what they do?!".
     
  19. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    The abortion issue probably directly affects about 10,000 people out of 330,000,000, thats about 0.0003% of the population. Inflation affects 100% of the population. Are you saying 0.0003% is as important or more important than 100% of the population
     
  20. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    I am saying that everyone's VOTE was not SOLELY based on inflation and nothing else like the media was reporting. People still cared. No matter what numbers you make up to prove it was "fraud". "More Drilling"? Would release more oil onto the INTERNATIONAL MARKET. Which would cause OPEC to lower production. Not "teach em who's boss!". They dont build pipelines, for the 1000th time, to export ports, to then ship it back inland to refineries. They build them to those ports to EXPORT IT. Because, just like tax cuts that will "Give raises! So many raises! Cause hiring!" but never do? All that would have happened? "Their money! Their product! Mind your own business!".
     
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