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Conspiracy theories

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by MilaHot, Oct 7, 2021.

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  1. atomicmango51

    atomicmango51 New Member

    Lea Michele from Glee is illiterate. I’m behind on that conspiracy theory 24/7
     
  2. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    You know Mila, their are many very educated people who are extremely intelligent in their field of expertise.

    Yours is History. Please don't continue to demean everyone who are not educated in history like you.

    Please under stand that (I can only speak for the USA) our public education system has all but eradicated any true
    form of past history about the world events.
    (For crying out loud- we have university professors teaching that the Jewish Holocaust never happened and is nothing
    more than propaganda !)

    Our public high schools (and private) do not teach hardly anything in the topic of history, especially Modern History.
    That is all because of the out-based graduation system started in the 70's and the current Proficiency Test requirement
    for graduation.

    So most anyone who did not Graduate from at least High School before 1975, is ignorant of Modern history unless they
    took an elective course in it.
     
  3. MilaHot

    MilaHot Account Deleted

    I will stop, yes. But please, PLEASE, don't just warn me. Also warn those that help spread the lies. I am just trying to "st things straight", but they KEEP spreading their lies and propaganda, and I hate this.
     
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  4. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    To be fair? Our Public Elementary schools lie to us. Say the Pilgrims came here for 'religious freedom for everyone!'. Not the truth of 'failed to overthrow the CoE and install Puritan as law, so they came to the new world fleeing execution to make it law here'. My favorite is how they make a borderline Socialist song "This Land is Your Land" into a "America is GREAT" anthem. If you dont understand what I mean? These are the verses they take out:


    As I went walking I saw a sign there,
    And on the sign it said "No Trespassing."
    But on the other side it didn't say nothing.
    That side was made for you and me.

    In the shadow of the steeple I saw my people,
    By the relief office I seen my people;
    As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking
    Is this land made for you and me?

    Yes. There is a lot of over adjustment to the Left swing as well.

    I am saying that 7 year olds, who cant handle how abusive the Puritans were in reality? Dont need to learn history at all. If they cant handle that kind of stuff till say 11 or 12? Start US History there. The same way those 7 year olds DONT NEED to hear about sexuality.
     
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  5. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

  6. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    One man's propaganda and lies is another man's truth.

    Doesn't matter the side.

    This Thread has a lot of the "Right's" broadcasts etc.
    Nothing stopping anyone from posting the "Left's" broadcasts , etc.

    Though yes, I understand any Liberal viewpoint will be met with resistance. If something is posted from
    the Left in this thread AND is posted by someone who lives IN the USA, it will be viewed totally different
    than a Liberal or Leftist post by someone OUTSIDE the USA, it will be met with a much higher contention.

    Which those outside the USA, no matter how much they think the know what is going on in this country,
    they don't. Period.
    It's the same for those in the USA. Posts about Canada and Germany, etc, are biased and limited and can not
    reflect the true viewpoint of those who live in that country.

    Both sides outside of the country are bound by the Media and what they want one to believe. Rarely is it
    ever the true viewpoint of those who live in the country and experience the truth firsthand.

    That is why I take ALL the posts about Canada that is not a post by a Canadian Member (you, PC in point),
    with a grain of salt.

    I DO TAKE what you and PC say about the events and the pulse of the Canadian people as the most correct
    facts about what is going on and how the populace feels. Way over and above what is a post that contains
    a snippet from any media outlet!

    I trust you two to let us know what is REALLY going on in Canada.

    Maybe look at what Buffy, whitecoffee, Neo and I (and the others) when we WRITE ( not a video snippet) a post or viewpoint
    as coming from those who are experiencing it firsthand as the real description of events.

    Throw out of your mind what you may have already seen/heard about what is going on from any media material and
    take what you read here as more to the truth of what really is happening.

    That is exactly what I do. That is why I trust you and PC (and a couple of others outside of this Forum) to inform
    us of the truth and not the (sometimes) obvious BS that is spewed by the news channels.

    In summary, instead of trying to argue that what is posted is lies and propaganda, let us know what is
    really going on in your country with your OWN EXPERIENCE and observation.
    And maybe open up to what we write as our own experience that contradicts what you have seen/heard/taught as
    the more of the truth about events.

    What is posted that bashes the Left and Liberals, IS NOT just reason to bash them. It is because
    we see them destroying our country's sovereignty from within, and it's infuriating!
     
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  7. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Also remember this, at least I hope. Neo, Dane and I attack each other politically. At the end of the day we work together and are internet "friends" in the end.
     
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  8. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

  9. MilaHot

    MilaHot Account Deleted

    Welll, yes, something stop me from posting things from the Left. Because every time I say something that is Left oriented, there are some trolls coming and saying I am either "lying" or "too young and don't understand" or other stuff like that. They attack me rather than my arguments. So what's even the point in bringing 'my sources' if they are denied just because I am from the Left?
     
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  10. Neophyte

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  11. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    A friend of my proposed the following theory. That Fauci and the CDC have recently lifted Covid lockdowns and mandates for the purpose of allowing the government revoking Title-42, thereby allowing the government to fully open the border and allow the illegals to crossover and stay in the U.S. The government imposes and lifts Covid mandate at their whim for they empowerment, with total disregards to the peoples safety. The Democrats Agenda is more important than American Citizens Lives.
     
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  12. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    On history? Our US modern history teachers, as of the 1990s were still PRETENDING that the US "Single-handedly won WWII for Europe". The truth is the Russians were in Berlin before us. If Hitler did not turn on Russia and fight a 2 front war? We would not have made a damned bit of difference.

    Our US History teachers still blather about how the Pilgrims came here for "Religious freedom FOR ALL". Truth is they came here ahead of a headsman's axe. Because they attempted to usurp CoE and make "Puritanism the law". Then came here and did just that. They tortured Quakers and Natives that were not following "Puritan". They held "Witch Trial" for any social dissension when the tide started turning against "Puritan as law" in their settlement.

    I only knew of Tulsa because my 8th Grade US History teacher told the Admin to "GFY, I dont care what you want in the curriculum." and had enough sway locally to win. That is left out so many places or glossed over as an "incident without a real reason".

    Let me add, yes, there are a lot of people knowledgable. As Mila pointed out? There are people who think their AGE and AGE alone mean they are right because they have "Life Experience, Wisdom, and demand respect". And that REPLACES actual experience and education on the subject.

    Not to stir the pot. But many people are like the locked thread's opening when it comes to being an "elder". "I, as the elder, will unilaterally define the respect you WILL give me. I will tell YOU what is what and you will not question me.". There is a real, not insignificant, group out there who think an 80 year old woman on a register part time who was a cashier since 18, knows more about Corporate Finance and Accounting than people with Masters, Doctorates and actual CPAs because "she is their elder and her 'life experience' plus 'wisdom' means she knows more".
     
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  13. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    The problem I have with Title 42 was it was a veil to sidestep the treaties we signed.

    Both sides are wrong on Asylum Immigration.

    It is, in fact simple. You cross ONLY at marked crossings, announce immediately. Have a hearing. Not "return home and file a request with payment. We will get back to you at some point". That. Day. Dont have enough judges? Hire. More. Nominate. TODAY. Anyone that crosses anywhere else is not "eligible".
     
  14. RedwoodOrigina69

    RedwoodOrigina69 Trusted Member

    I always think about this. Now we're living in a distopia, countries where the guns are banned, are screw. The only ones countries who the civilians have access to guns are the hope. I'm don't like Trump but i will say the elections has been arrange. The ''Elite'' make the COVID so in the last year in the elections, Biden could win and start to bannin guns just like Obama. True there was a virus but the numbers about the casualties are exaggerated. They want to rule one of the last countries where is free will. Guns means freedom and a goverment with a armed society are scary to them. Mexico, (some parts) Canada, UK, Australia, etc are examples what happend if you let the goverment take your guns. If the crime don't go up, the goverment power will. In Mexico cartels have the power, civilians can take easily a cartel without a problem, but they don't have guns and the own goverment accept that because the cartels pay them very well. Canada now is a dictaroship, the same ministry has been elected too many times and now some laws are BS, UK maybe don't have crimes involved firearms (not many, just a few) guess what, the attacks with knives rise up. Australia don't realise they have a secret firewall so they don't only can have access to porn sites, also alternative news websites, etc. Don't believe? the media has been busy try to hide all this info.
     
  15. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Fact. The government has bombers, tanks, and bombs. You have a glock and an AR-15. Government will WIN no matter how many guns the town has.
     
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  16. RedwoodOrigina69

    RedwoodOrigina69 Trusted Member

    You're right but the people have something more powerfull. The will of die for their freedom.
     
  17. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    You shoot your AR-15 at a bomber? You might shoot it out of the air. It WILL drop it all and you got 2 kills, they got a town or two of kills. Be real. The armed populace delusion died when the people LET the government say "we can have, you cant. Law.".
     
  18. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    All military people know you need foot solders to hold territory. You can have all the planes and tanks you want, but without solders on the ground you can't hold territory. What good are bombers if you have no landing strips to refuel and rearm. What good are tanks if they have no gas and no shells for their cannon. You may have an advantage to start with, but all your advance equipment will quickly become expensive paperweights.
     
  19. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    I am saying if the US decided to suppress the people? They can carpet bomb from carriers. The military has fuel. They dont go to the "Gas Station" to get it. They can take out whole STATES before they run out. Carriers have REACTORS. Much of our fleet is NUCLEAR, not "Fuel". They are not going in to meet you old school Civil War, lined up in a field.
     
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  20. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    Aircraft carriers and submarines are nuclear, all other ships use diesel. The military probably have about 60 days worth of fuel at full use. But you need to get the fuel and ammo from where its stored to where it would be used. If the civilian population rose up and stopped all shipments, the military would be using all its resources getting to the supplies not carpet bombing states. The only way the military could win is for the entire population to get on their knees and beg.
     
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