Prostitution legalization

Lol, only problem is it's almost like having sex with a corpse.

 

Don't know, haven't fucked one.
I've seen some have heaters built in to make it more real.

 

In all seriousness though, it actually might not be such a crazy idea. With technological advancements, these dolls perhaps can be made almost lifelike using artificial intelligence and robotics in near future, like it is shown in the movie "Her" (Very interesting movie, starring Scarlett Johansson and Joaquin Phoenix).

 

Ever seen the movie "WestWorld"?

Robots that do all.

 

For both prostitution and for pot i'm in favor of legalization with a severe public control.

- More tax money for the state.

- Better service for customers, with better trained prostitutes and assurance that they have no diseases.

- Prostitutes would get every social protection other workers have, health checks, no longer risks to be arrest, reduce risks of violence by customers, help to find another if they want to quit the job or become too old to do it.

- It cuts earnings of criminal groups who exploit prostitution and human trafic (same for drugs).

So i think that's best solution for everyone.

In an ideal society i would go even further. Create a public service of sexuality. Free (state paid) access to place where you can have sex and/or concelling about sexuality and relationship...

 

Yeah, Westworld is fantastic. But you mean the hbo series right? Fantastic concept, violance, nudity, steller cast, none better than Anthony Hopkins of course, what's not to love ?

 

On the airplane to the resort, the flight attendants were female robots and one of the passengers propositioned one of them but she replied she wasn't"built" for that but he could get one after they landed.

 

Ahh, apologies for my ignorance. The series is actually is adapted from the 1973 movie that you are talking about. Now I HAVE TO watch it. I also highly recommend the series for anyone who hasn't watched it, it's spectacular.

 

I support legalizing prostitution. It would vastly cut down on human trafficking and STD's. Generally things that make things safer are good.

 

It should be legalized and protected, I think. So the workers wouldn't be abused, or forced, but chose to do it

 

Before talking about the legalisation of prostitution, there should be a study on whether women want to be prostitutes. From a male point of view, prostitution is fun and a pleasure, but prostitution is often the only way for a woman to feed her children. Nor should we forget that many of the women are victims of human trafficking because they were promised a job unrelated to prostitution, so it was not their idea to be prostitutes. To arrive, fuck and leave is the dream of many men and legalisation would only be a way to make that wish come true without any problems of any kind, with sanitary control and total security. A real dream. Studies have shown that very few women, a very small number of women, want to be prostitutes. From a female perspective it is not pleasant to have to fuck 5, 10 or 20 people every day. We would have to find out, before legalising prostitution, whether all these women want to continue to offer their bodies for men to use in a selfish way and for their exclusive pleasure. Legalising prostitution would not solve major problems that exist, such as sex at forbidden ages of abducted girls. Many women are prostituted for human trafficking and this situation would continue even with legalisation because these women do not talk to the police for fear of beatings by the men who control this exploitation network. The image of a happy, fun-loving prostitute is an image that needs to be changed, because it is not always the case. Prostitution is only an abuse of a woman in need. Also prostitution still maintains the image of a woman as a thing you can use whenever you want without worrying about her pleasure. To legalise prostitution is to accept prostitution as a job and it is not that simple, we should go much deeper into all the physical and psychological consequences for a woman to receive inside her body the penis of many men in exchange for money. That is the big difference, it is not the same to go inside a person than to have someone inside you. To be waiting for a client, even if prostitution is legal, without knowing who he is, what he likes in sex, what perversions he will demand in exchange for paying with money, what level of violence that person will have, is a feeling that, even with the law in hand, must not be particularly pleasant. Personally I don't think that legalising prostitution makes any sense, because human trafficking networks will specialise in offering forbidden ages or very extreme fetishes, which means more violence against women, and because only a small part of these women want to be prostitutes. Everyone accepts prostitution, except if the one working in prostitution is your daughter. I think that this debate, which is interesting in itself, talks too much about laws and not enough about women, because we should not think about legal prostitution, but about the reason why that woman decides to be a prostitute. The only possible legalisation of prostitution would be to offer a woman the possibility to be a prostitute or to offer her another job and let her decide freely. No other legalisation has any purpose or motive.

 

We have to help people who are forced to prostitute (also to make porn and such), violently or just because they are extremely poor, i agree that's really important and that in most countries governements do little about it. But we have to also hear people who say they choose to become prostitutes (they exist, some even create worker union to defend their rights, both against patriarchy and agaisnt those so called radical feminists, who claim to speak in their name and deprive them of their word).

For me, what's important, on prostitution and on everything else related to sexuality is consent and right for people to do what they want with their bodies. It's something totally incoherent to say that you have to believe people when they say they are victims but that, on the other hand, their word no longer has any value, shouldn't be believe and take into account when they say they are consenting.

Also prostitutes aren't all women, there are men too and non-binary people, although I recognize that there is a majority of women.

Prostitution is generally quite well paid and would be even better paid if legalize. Some prostitutes said that with 2 or 3 clients by evening, they make a living. And that's they prefer that to more tiring job, to spend 8 hours a day in an office and that it is also a useful job for society even if it is not recognized.

What history show is that many society tried to cancel prostitution in the past: it never work. In recent case, what's even worse is that studies show that's first victims of this prohibition are prostitutes themselves, those precisely that's partisans of such laws pretend to liberate. Repressive approach do little to help them quit and do nothing against social conditions that sometimes force them to sell themselves (spoiler: culprit is capitalism) but it exposes prostitutes to even more violence, from both clients and cops, they are subject to increase misery and poverty, well these measures have the opposite effect of that officially pursued.

Prohibition mean less clients. So as some prostitutes said themselves it means that they have to accept one they have, even if they are violents, they want practice that are degrading or the prostitute disagree with. It may be counter-intuitive, but these practices that you denounce it is prohibition that encourages them even more and makes them even more common, making the lives of prostitutes more difficult: discourse of anti-prostitution feminists is therefore totally disconnected from reality, cynical and hypocritical, measures they advocate degrade the conditions of those they claim to defend.

That's prohibition that forbid them to talk to cops. If prostitution is illegal, prostitutes are criminal in front of law, not victims. If they try to make complaints for violence at the police station, they risk at the same time being prosecuted for having prostituted themselves. The police most often illegally refuse to take complaints and make fun and mock complainants of those cases. In fact, they are themselves often perpetrators of violence, rape even, against prostitutes, guaranteed to have impunity because of the prohibition people won't file a complaint, particularly against them.

Legalizing will cut money to criminal groups (people nearly always prefer a legal and safe alternative to a criminal one), would reduce risk of violence (there would be guards and people who don't respect what's prostitute agree to would be immediatly prosecute by laws), recognition as work would also entail application of labor law, possibility of having unemployment and retirement insurance, of being better covered by health insurance, all of this will improve those people state of living: unlike what you said, legalization would be better not only for clients but for prostitutes themselves.

I advocate a state own monopoly legalization: that's the better way to control it and to make sure prostitute are well treated, in a "non profit" work way. I think it should be part of a "public sex health system", in a place that provide sex but also help, tips and advice on sexuality and relationships by professionals and also prevention against diseases by physicians. In that case, people who don't want to be prostitute anymore can move to any other branch of public work freely and easily, they can have training so they can do.

 

Not many. Only Nederland support it but soon it will hapen in many country

 

Star, I agree with you that legalizing prostitution doesn't make any sense, because everything would remain the same as before. The mafias that earn many millions of euros with this business would not give up all that money, threatening the prostitutes legalized by that law. Prostitution is just a way of understanding that the woman is only a pussy for the pleasure of the man in exchange for money.

Simone de Beauvoir says it very well: “In prostitution, all the images of female slavery are defined at the same time”.

Amelia Tiganus, survivor of prostitution, “prostitution is a space where men reaffirm their masculinity, a concentration camp for women. There can never be legal prostitution, men are sent a message that fucking a woman in all three of her holes is very masculine."

The feminist Nidia Kreig says that "to affirm that women can choose in the context of patriarchal and capitalist inequality, is to leave them at the mercy of prostitution, it is a much greater degree of helplessness, more brutal because exploitation would not only be legitimized by money. but by law."

In countries like Germany, Holland and Austria prostitution is legalized, the trafficking of women continues to be a social scourge and also with the impediment of not being able to act, since women are threatened by pimps and do not report these threats to the police and the Police cannot act because prostitution is legal, according to a European Parliament report. In countries like Norway or Sweden where prostitution is abolished, the exploitation of women has been reduced.

Researcher Beatriz Ranea says "asking women victims of sex trafficking how their lives will improve with a union."

Sandra Norak was a prostitute in Germany where prostitution is legalized and says that by being legalized, the increase in clients is greater, which forces more people to practice it even against their will and because of human trafficking, because pimps see a business . “I have seen many women mistreated in legal brothels, some practiced prostitution freely, others were mistreated inside the brothel and nobody defended them. On one occasion a man came to me and told me that he didn't know whether to go to the butcher shop or come to the brothel to fuck. In the end he came to the brothel. We are not people, we are just pieces of meat.”

Ingeborg Kraus head of the Center for Trauma and Prostitution says “when you legalize you reduce women to an object, over which the rules of capitalism rule. The result is that the conditions in which these women work are worse. And men are sent the message that women are there to be bought. They are asymmetric relationships where a man with power tells the woman what to do. The pressure of the pimps on the prostitutes remains exactly the same.”

Regarding prices in countries where it is legal, many women join this job thinking of great benefits, but prices have fallen, because men increasingly demand more sex and time for less money, since they know that if a woman does not someone else does. UEGD, the association representing 200 brothels in Germany estimates that prices have decreased by 23%.

Axel Dreher from the University of Heidelberg points out that to think that prostitution could be a normal business is very childish. Tax fraud has not been reduced and neither has illegal prostitution.

Sandra Norak, a prostitute in Germany with legalized prostitution and regarding prices, indicates that “a client pays €160 to enter a brothel and 80 stays in the brothel, the other 80 is distributed among the girls with whom the client wants to be. If the client wants 4 girls, we charge 20 euros each. On other occasions for €15 you have half an hour of sex and they give the client a free beer and food. Then there are the flat rates, they are illegal, nobody announces them but everyone knows they exist”.

Sandra Norak also says that “children in Germany now grow up with the idea that prostitution is a job like any other, that going to a brothel and buying a woman is like buying cigarettes. Many women enter prostitution because they think it is a comfortable business and they will earn money. They do not imagine the violence they are going to suffer. The easy thing is to get in, the difficult thing is to get out.