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Not a Troll post about American politics, from an European

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by kingshadow2, Oct 19, 2020.

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  1. Downnhill

    Downnhill Trusted.Member

    That's true... Even Kanye West is candidate. I wonder why even big media is not about him. He was just in Joe Rogan Experience ( haven't listened that one yet).
     
  2. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Do you think that I'm NOT already mental?
     
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  3. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    They have a room reserved for you in the psyche ward. Right next door to mine. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    Here in the USA, Pussycat is mostly correct by Socialism is looked at as a polar opposite via party lines, but in daily conversation,
    it's actually quite blurred.

    A majority of conservatives and liberals believe a blended socialistic approach to health care is needed. But the Democrats in
    office are pushing for a complete, pure socialism approach. What I mean by pure is that they want health care for all, including all
    illegal (or whatever you want to call people in the country who are here without any approval) aliens.
    That puts their health care on the backs of taxpayers, the illegal aliens do not pay taxes as they are paid in cash.
    It needs to be noted that their are a lot of foreigners in our country legally do not pay taxes either. Not most of them of course.
    But it happens daily where a shop owner abruptly leaves the country (India usually) as they are discovered as not ever filing
    a tax return. All the while has been sending money back to family in their country.

    The problems rises in that the democrats in office want socialism healthcare, disability benefits, free schooling including
    college, foodstamps, for EVERYONE no matter what. If you are in the country, they'll pay you no matter how you got here.
    One has to agree that is a perfect example of how to take down a country economically.
     
  5. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Is there a connecting door?
     
  6. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Moderator Staff Member

    It's on the other side of the glass separating patients from staff.
     
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  7. LuckyDuck

    LuckyDuck Trusted.Member

    I'm an Aussie & here in Australia Trump is painted in a bad light, & is on all news channels available to watch & read.

    Like all Politics in the Western World, where "Democracy" is King; you have two Political Parties (PP). At their cores they are Left & Right winged PP. Both of those wings are wings of the same bird. That bird is Collectivism. In the Cycle of Politics around the World, there are 4 cycles of Government. The last cycle is Democracy before it collapses & reverts to No. 1. Number one is Totalitarianism! You wonder why Democracy has been pumped around the world over for 75 years? Politics is a big con-job! Worst of all, it is engineered that way to fool the masses!

    Pussycat, it is looking that way that the US is headed for civil war - to me looking on the outside observing what is happening in the US, it stands out like dogs balls. Once disarmament of the USA happens, you know the NWO is not far in being instituted.
     
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  8. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    There are a lot of people in the USA on both sides of the aisle who think we are headed for a civil war.
    That is what the Republicans are trying to stop. Those who are doing the rioting and looting and spewing
    false information that antagonizes people are usually Democrats.
    It's not just those outside-looking-in.

    [/QUOTE]Once disarmament of the USA happens, you know the NWO is not far in being instituted.[/QUOTE].

    Clinton tried that, Obama tried that too. Biden will try it too. Bush and Trump reversed it.
     
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  9. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    Did you ever notice that everybody always blames the other guy for starting it?
     
  10. Zarp

    Zarp Trusted.Member

    Something to consider, the full time democratic politicians in this country “by that I mean the ones who have gotten rich of off their jobs, not saying that only applies to democrats” have spent four years tearing this country apart trying to come up with a way to discredit and or get Trump our of office by any means.

    Imagine for a moment if instead they had done the jobs they were elected to do and worked together for the betterment of the country. How much better things would be. I do not mean they should agree on everything but at least give the other parties views some credence.

    One of the hold ups right now is the fact that Trump has flatly stated he would sign off on second huge stimulus package for helping all Americans out of work and hurting for money to simply feed their families and keep a roof over their heads. Every package sent up by the Democrats is loaded with personal interest money for their pet projects. If they are so concerned with the welfare of the nation and it’s people why do they not simply pass a bill that meets the requirements needed to get the money to the people that needs it. Now that is not to say the republicans are 100% innocent of some of the same things.

    Some of what I have said above is why me personally will be voting for Trump again on the third.
     
  11. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    I disagree, it is fact that our military was almost decimated by Clinton and Obama. It was strengthened under Reagan, revived under Bush(s) and Trump. Check the National Budget Report, military spending was slashed more than half by the Democrat presidents.

    As far as it's always the other side's fault, look at what is happening now. There was another shooting of a black man by an officer trying to save their own life. The guy had a knife and was lunging at the officer. Happened Wednesday.
    The media portrayed him as a victim, when in fact he was a criminal, like all of them (except the lady in the hallway, she was no angel, but she was innocent of trying to do harm).

    The media has elevated these criminals to a hero status. Elaborate funerals with gold encrusted coffins. It's sickening.
    Thereby fueling the fire of rioting and looting. Happened again Wednesday after the shooting. The was no protest, just rioting and looting and destruction of buildings.

    Most Republicans I know will all say that Bush was wrong to start the war with Iraq the way he did. No one will ever say the war with Iraq was the fault of Democrats. But the Democrats refuse to admit when they mess up.

    ObamaCare is a case in point. Started out as a noble idea, but degraded into a horrible mess pushed through the system just to garner votes. All done by the Democrat majority.
    Republicans are to blame too. They wanted to make it too effing complicated thereby causing it to take years to get anything done.
    So the Democrats pushed it.

    I retract my "I disagree".
    After writing this, it's the politician's fault! Both sides of the aisle!
     
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  12. LuckyDuck

    LuckyDuck Trusted.Member

    If you don't like Trump, the alternative isn't much better, being Joe Biden. Why would you vote for someone who has onset Dementia? Even if Biden gets in, will he last for the full term? I have lived with people who have had Dementia & Joe Biden is starting to display symptoms of Dementia. If not Biden, who is the alternative?
    I think Politics around the World has gotten to a state, where a large majority are fed up with Politics & "voting". They lack vision for a particular country, and only concerned with lasting with lasting a "term" & when the term is up, making promises to hopefully get elected for another bite at the cherry!
     
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  13. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    I think Ezra Klein summed it up:

    "We are so locked into our political identities that there is virtually no candidate, no information, no condition that can force us to change our minds....We will justify almost anything or anyone so long as it helps our side, and the result is a politics devoid of guardrails, standards, persuasion, or accountability."
     
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  14. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    That is SO narrow minded! ( Great Big Smiley Emoji )
     
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  15. LuckyDuck

    LuckyDuck Trusted.Member

    That is spot on & can see where Ezra is coming from. Thanks pussycat.
     
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