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2nd Amendment

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by buffyfan, Apr 13, 2020.

  1. MilaHot

    MilaHot Account Deleted

    Hammers were created for carpentry, blacksmithing, etc. War came later.
    Mesopotamians used hammers, even for music, for percussions
     
  2. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    They used mallets which are similar to hammers, but not the same. But who are you trying to convince.
     
  3. MilaHot

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    Who are YOU trying to convince. Tools were created as tools before they were made for war lol
     
  4. Amytb

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    See this is what they what keep us fighting about anything so they keep getting rich and us down
     
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  5. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Ha Ha Ha !!
     
  6. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Hands and feet make it easier.
     
  7. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    In China the preferred weapon is a knife.
     
  8. MilaHot

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    Brutus you are hopeless lol you fail to see the point
     
  9. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    One more try. A hand gun can kill people from 100 feet. Multiple kills. At 100 feet? You need balanced knives and a LOT of them. And some talent. Guns can kill more faster. And it hurts the supporter argument when people say "Well a knife" or "well a brick" acting like they have same potential.
     
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  10. MilaHot

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    To kill with a knife, you have to 'work for it'. Its not easy. And you can be stopped quickly after killing one person.
    WIth a gun? Depending on the gun, you can kill at least half a dozen people before ANYONE can react
     
  11. phantom

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    I tend to think that these arguments are missing the point. The issue really is why people feel they need to go down this way. Most of these cases it is Hate or mental illness of some sort. Just the other day some 20 year old ran over some people at a fundraiser for a people in a house fire that some people died in. Then after this he speed off then ran over his mom and beat her with a hammer to make sure she was dead. Why .. something to do that he was frustrated that she would not given him more money. Ya no gun.. but big impact. I am pretty sure of he had better support options to help him with his issues he would not go down this violence as a solution option. Gun are not the real issue, as cars, hammers, swords, knifes and Bombs.. it the people using them, that are often in a place of needing help. That is what we should be putting resources into ( in my humble opinion), making points about how fast a person can kill people with something I feel missing the point of the people that get hurt and have to live with that pain forced on them or die from the attack.
     
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  12. MilaHot

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    But the thing is, a car, or a hammer, or other tools used by that killer, were not designed to kill.
    Guns are DESIGNED to kill. Its their ONLY GOAL. It makes it EASY to kill.
    That is the problem actually. So yes, any psycho with issues can take a gun and kill a bunch of people. Someone determined will always find a way to kill people, but with guns, they could kill MORE people
     
  13. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Do you KNOW a hammer was not designed to KILL? Maybe it was repurposed for another use else after it was designed to KILL. Ever hear of a WAR HAMMER? Has anyone heard of some guy named David who killed a guy named Goliath with a ROCK at a distance using a sling. It's in the Bible. Or is the Bible a lie?
     
  14. phantom

    phantom Account Deleted

    People will find ways to kill other fast and in number. The realty is that stuff we buy to clean our house can easily be made into a bomb of mass destruction in a populated area. Efforts are made to hide how to do this to a point, and try to track people buy stuff in odd amounts to stop this. I agree we use guns to hunt, defend and to hurt others. but bombs are used the same way, to mine and industrial uses we depend on, but also to kill. Setup up systems so people don't need to go in to a mode in which they feel hurting others is the solution to the issue. gun are just a one of many methods/tools people use to care out acts to hurt others
     
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  15. MilaHot

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    Yes, there are War Hammer. But the word says it all. WAR hammer. War + the word Hammer. The use of a prefixe in the word means there were ALREADY hammers when they decided to build WAR hammers.
    As for the Bible, yes, its all lies, edited multiple times. But that's another topic.
     
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  16. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Just because the word WAR was dropped doesn't mean it was not meant to KILL first. As for the Bible, if those who believe it, will.
     
  17. MilaHot

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    Oh yeah, sure. They named it War hammer so they could build shelters for homeless orphans of war with it, yeah, sure. Wow, awesome use of logic there.
    Hammers were first used by carpenters and blacksmiths. Not by warriors. Warhammers started to be used later, when armors started to be used, because it proved effective against armors
     
  18. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    In Germany and England too.
     
  19. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    Wasn't there an incident in London, where someone killed or injured a dozen people in just a few minutes. There are other incidents of multiple people being killed with knives. The only advantage a gun has is distance, not the number of people killed.
     
  20. Dane

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    People driving cars improperly kill tens of thousands more people each year than the hundreds of deaths due to people using guns improperly.

    So with that logic, cars should be banned.
     
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