2nd Amendment- Archaic or Based In Timeless Rights?

OMG! Of course firearms are different!

I'll give you some time to think that through.

 

You have not fully understood @Neophyte 's posts about the legal gun owner and the criminals.

Here is the MAJOR misrepresentation that ALL of the MSM fails to report.

There are a far greater number of peoples lives SAVED because a homeowner, or store owner, or even someone walking to their car has SAVED THEIR OWN, AS WELL AS OTHERS (FAMILY) LIVES BECAUSE THE INTENEDED VICTIM PRODUCED A FIREARM and either stopped the assailant by force or by the assailant backing down and leaving.

Many, many, more events of lives saved than the MSM own, falsified numbers of "mass shootings".

You have never taken into account the sheer high number of events in which a firearm SAVED innocent lives from a criminal.
Really, do a dive into the real stats instead of just being a repeater of the MSM's assault on the 2nd.

This is not an attack on you personally. You are falling right into the Democrats "anti-gun" trap that these crimes are the gun's fault.

 

That is a lie. Guns dont save lives, they take lives. But gun fanatics omit that, always.

 

Thank you Dane,

You may find this surprising, but I totally disagree with you.

"There are a far greater number of peoples lives SAVED because a homeowner, or store owner, or even someone walking to their car has SAVED THEIR OWN, AS WELL AS OTHERS (FAMILY) LIVES BECAUSE THE Intended VICTIM PRODUCED A FIREARM and either stopped the assailant by force or by the assailant backing down and leaving."

Where are you coming up with your information?

 

I have thought it through; though it's clear you have not. It's okay. Let's go through this together. You'll argue they're different because they are purposefully designed to kill. They are in fact designed to kill, and to do so as efficiently as possible. But now you have to ask yourself (honestly and without emotion) - why is that a bad thing, if that is your intent? Are there times when that action is reasonable and appropriate? Sure, like when you're harvesting animal protein; or when you're trying to immediately stop a very bad person from doing very bad things to you. Under either of those conditions, you want the tool that allows you to complete that task most efficiently (allowing us to complete necessary tasks more efficiently is the reason we have technological advancements). The need to harvest animals for food and to protect oneself from predators (including other humans) has existed for as long as there have been humans. Over time, we've developed tools to make those tasks easier. Will you explain why that's bad?

 

No, killing is NEVER the answer.
If a guy wants to steal money, too bad, but you dont die. Killing him isnt "saving yourself", its killing.

Why is it bad to kill? You SERIOUSLY ask that?

 

Yes, I seriously asked that, and you didn't answer. What you said was that killing is never the answer, and limited your evidence to a hypothetical robbery where the victim's material goods were the perpetrators' only goal. In that limited instance, you may be right; but that's not what you said. What you said is never. Let's test that theory. Do you eat meat? It's possible that you choose not to; but even in that situation: your eyes are in the front; you have pointed or sharp teeth designed for slicing or tearing (canines and incisors); and proteases and lipases (the enzymes responsible for digesting protein and fat). Translation: your body was designed to, and doing so is completely normal. How have we gained our position on the food chain? Is it because we're bigger, faster, or stronger? Hardly. Trust me, I live in coastal Florida. We've got sharks in the saltwater, gators and moccasins in the freshwater, and wild pigs and bobcats on the land. In "hand to hand" it wouldn't even be close! It's because our more developed cerebral cortex and our opposable thumbs allowed us to develop and use tools. So now you'll want to argue: "those are animals, humans are different". Yet you've taken a pro-abortion stance in numerous other threads. So try being honest for once and just admit you don't have a problem with killing, you just believe you deserve to be the arbitrator of who gets to do the killing and under what circumstances. Killing the hypothetical baby in the abortions you so vehemently support only threatens the material possessions of the parents, not their health or safety (just like the hypothetical thief in your robbery example who only wanted money). You'll say sometimes the health and safety of the mother is at risk, justifying the killing. Why then doesn't this apply when the health and safety of the robbery victim is jeopardized? Killing is a natural occurrence within the animal kingdom. Among the predatory animals (and again, look at your eyes, teeth, and enzymes) this divides into predators and prey. Tools are the only thing keeping those otherwise most vulnerable out of the prey category. To date, when killing is justified, firearms have proven to be the best tool for the task.

 

Please goto theync.com and search "robberies". (I cannot link them as they are not suitable for this Forum)
You will find many ccv videos that show a criminal robbing the store and then after getting the money out of the till, shoot the clerk dead just to be sure "no witnesses" or even just because they can.

Even videos where he criminal just shot the clerk dead so they wouldn't get in the way of them getting the money.

It is never "bad" to kill someone who is threatening your life by pointing a gun a you.

And don't give me that bullshit that if you just give them what they want, they will almost always just take it and go.
Not only has that been proven false, but even if it was true, you want to take the chance you are "the one" that doesn't get the robber who just "goes away"??


WARNING!- The videos that are accessable at that site are for mentally stable mature individuals who understand what they are about to see can have a lasting effect. They are not for the faint of heart.

Another thought here, if you search ISIS or Islam or IS, you will see just how many people are truly evil. (which I think by your replies you still believe, in general, people are "good".)

Type in Brazil, again, you will see that in some countries, the % of people who would kill you just for your phone is way higher than you want to believe.

 

the thieves kill because of the gun culture mostly. They are afraid to be shot in hte back when they run away with the money