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uk referendum

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by poolies, Dec 4, 2016.

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  1. poolies

    poolies New Member

    hi we had a vote in June on whether we stay or leave the EU i voted leave now remainers are trying there hardest to stop us leaving the EU if that happens my freedom of vote means nothing wondering what your thoughts are on it
     
    poolies, Dec 4, 2016
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  2. bigbaddaboom

    bigbaddaboom looking to meet new people

    I didn't vote for our government.....do I get another vote? That's what it feel like.
     
    bigbaddaboom, Dec 4, 2016
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  3. C Duncan

    C Duncan Account Deleted

    Feel the exact same. I never voted for the current Scottish government. Can i have a different result please.
     
    C Duncan, Dec 14, 2016
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  4. leon Phillips

    leon Phillips Trusted.Member

    clintonites havent given up here in usa either. i wouldnt worry yet-see it though.:)
     
    leon Phillips, Dec 15, 2016
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  5. o2mero1mer

    o2mero1mer Trusted Member

    I think it's an unfortunate exit
     
    o2mero1mer, Mar 30, 2017
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  6. leon Phillips

    leon Phillips Trusted.Member

    i dont recognize my comment- i must have been drunk:)
     
    leon Phillips, Mar 31, 2017
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  7. Akbloke

    Akbloke Ex Pig-Fixer "Videmus Agamis"

    Don't worry "poolies" - you will be leaving the EU. Brussels will no longer be ruling you. And you will get back control of your own Borders - at least you don't have to start building a "Fence"...LOL. But your 'Ditch / Moat' could do with widening.
     
    Akbloke, Apr 9, 2017
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  8. Lilywhite

    Lilywhite Trusted Member

    Voted to leave just wish they had got on with it a year ago.
     
    Lilywhite, Apr 22, 2017
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  9. Lilywhite

    Lilywhite Trusted Member

    Still wishing they would get on with it ,whatever the outcome of the election.
     
    Lilywhite, May 12, 2017
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  10. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Withdrawing from a treaty is not as easy as "we are out". Could they be moving faster? Sure. But now GB has to renegotiate trade with other nations, as the EU treaty was the standing one and I believe overrode the old ones.
     
    buffyfan, May 13, 2017
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  11. Akbloke

    Akbloke Ex Pig-Fixer "Videmus Agamis"

    I do believe that it will not be an easy "out" for the UK, mainly because you will no longer be having to support the French agricultural industry to do nothing. They may have to start supporting themselves. The Euro-folk will not be happy at losing financial support from the UK. And they will also have to financially support all of those other Eastern Euro Nations that do want to come and join.

    But the biggest advantage of getting out is that you will no longer be Dictated to by Brussels. You will have all of your own Laws back as you want them, and you can have far greater control of your own Borders.

    There will be plenty of other countries that will want to be trading with you. I'm sure that, for example, the Kiwis will be wanting to sell you Lamb and Dairy products. You might even be able to re-setup your Automotive industry again. And there will always be those interested in the I.T. industry.

    Cheers
     
    Akbloke, May 15, 2017
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  12. Insp Gadget

    Insp Gadget Trusted.Member

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    I have a large family over there in 'Jolly Old'.

    Many have told me that if they had needed just one extra incentive to split, it would have been this ...

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    " The U.K. is going to be in the back of the queue. "​

    (Obama warning Great Britain it will move to the end of the line for U.S. trade deals if it pulls out of the European Union.)

    It was laughable - and they don't take kindly over there to being 'warned' by some street punk.
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    Insp Gadget, May 15, 2017
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  13. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Depends. Do the trade deals read "EU"? If they do that TREATY takes precedence over anyone's will. Trade deals are the providence of CONGRESS as they are treaties. Not Trump or Obama. He can not, in fact, negotiate one then "sign an EO enacting it". He keeps getting shot down for one reason. Read the actual decisions. They usually say in some way "Not actually a power of the Presidency, that is a power of Congress". Yes folks. If Congress passed a law like most of the EOs shot down it would likely stand. Because trade and immigration are their realm, not his.

    He would have to negotiate a new one, submit to Congress for expedited vote w/o amendments for an up or down. But technically if they withdrew before that happened? We dont have an actual deal with England for a time.
     
    buffyfan, May 15, 2017
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