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Pro-Palestinian protests on campuses

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by buffyfan, Apr 28, 2024.

  1. buffyfan

    buffyfan Trusted.Member

    If the IDF wanted to commit Genocide? They have Patriot missiles that clear the land in SECONDS.

    Again, and to use your own phrase, the "unbrainwashed"? Know history. We know what "apartheid" was, because we were actually....... alive and teens if not adults when it ended. Also know the history of "Palestine" the nation that NEVER ACTUALLY existed. If I rename my acres "MyLand" and make up fake PASSPORTS that say it? Does that make it "really that nation". The COLONIAL TERRITORY was called "Trans Palestine". As a BRIT COLONY. Not a nation at any point. Never ruled by "Palestinians".
     
  2. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    Palestinians lived there for CENTURIES, even if some assholes from colonialist empire pretended the lands were theirs.
     
  3. bw19481

    bw19481 Trusted.Member

    After the Jews were there first. All of the Mosques are build over Jewish temples and cities.
     
  4. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    That is not true.
     
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  5. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    And the Jewish temples are built on older pagan temples. Doesnt give them the right, in an era that is supposed to be civilized, to slaughter civilians and steal their lands
     
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  6. Always-Learning

    Always-Learning Trusted.Member

    Your comment about Patriot missiles, and the capability of multiple warheads for the purpose of carpet bombing, is an outlawed practice due to it's indiscriminate way it kills everything. So there is that... And the fact the Torah, Quran, along the Catholic and Christian bible, all say that a wondering group of people marched into an area and kill everything living... even the livestock, because it was a command of their god, is looked at as the beginning of the Jewish nation, correct? So what is the difference of what they did then and are doing now? They aren't after Hamas, they are out to kill the youngest generation and those who will produce the next... In other words, the women and children. That is history repeating it's self and it is to well documented to deny.
     
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  7. bw19481

    bw19481 Trusted.Member

    Then they are doing a terrible job at it. Less that 5% of the total population. If they wanted to do a good job at it they should be at or near 70%.
     
  8. Always-Learning

    Always-Learning Trusted.Member

    wow... Just wow... 97 journalist (92 Palestinian, 2 Israeli and 3 Lebanese) 224 Humanitarian aid workers, including 179 in marked UN vans and trucks... All killed by Israeli forces. Over 34,262 killed, 70% of them are women and children, and in December of last year the Mediterranean Human Right Monitor estimated 90% of the casualties were civilian... Not Hamas...

    Every war has collateral damage were civilians are killed. But this is not collateral damage. They are not targeting Hamas with numbers like that and you're upset the numbers aren't higher. Do you happen to wear a red hat with something about America on it?
     
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  9. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    IDF is a terrorist group
     
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  10. buffyfan

    buffyfan Trusted.Member

    And if the Israelis were committing "Genocide" (note, young people LOVE yelling Genocide for any deaths)? They would not care.

    Truth people dont seem to want to accept is if a civilian in 4 feet from an Ammo Dump or Hamas Leadership HQ? They should be elsewhere. The rules DONT actually say that "One civilian present INVALIDATES the target".
     
  11. Always-Learning

    Always-Learning Trusted.Member

    Young people love yelling genocide... What an admission to hate and ignorance. You'll have to grow another 30+ years to be as young as I am...

    Israel claims to have one of the best trained armies in the world. They are suppose to be experts at inner-city warfare and taking out select targets. We are seeing none of that and no matter how much you want to defend Israel, you will not make the truth go away. Israel's intelligence knew this was coming and allowed it so they could go in and clear the Gaza Strip. They had no plans to take out Hamas, that was their excuse. Their plan was to make the strip uninhabitable and claim it for their own. Israel has refused every attempt to a cease fire and increased their actions on the ground. They are not going to stop until everyone on the strip is dead or the world steps in and stops them. Right now it looks like the latter. What they are doing is wholesale slaughter... If you agree with them, you really have a huge void in your makeup for mankind and you should have it looked at.
     
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  12. buffyfan

    buffyfan Trusted.Member

    They have the right to protest if they have the right to be on campus. SPEAKERS on private property can be invited. Not CAMPERS. The SCHOOL can remove both at any time.
     
  13. buffyfan

    buffyfan Trusted.Member

    So you are pushing 75 then?
     
  14. buffyfan

    buffyfan Trusted.Member

    Just like I say to Neo. SHOW YOUR WORK there. Show us the intel that they "knew". Skip the "heard from someone who heard from someone who asked not to be named" videos. The actual intel or an admission from a person, who has the clearance. On CAMERA. Not in a private verbal interview.

    Gaza and West Bank belong to ISRAEL by Peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan. They were given to Israel, not to the Palestinians as a homeland. Notice Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are locking their borders to the "poor put upon Palestinians" fleeing? Something about the last time Egypt did that they attempted to assassinate Sedat (ims on the leader), overthrow the Lebanese and Jordanian governments at different points. None. Of. Their. Neighbors. Want. The. "Refugees". Because they have a tendency to try to become the people "in charge" pretty fast.
     
  15. buffyfan

    buffyfan Trusted.Member

    Sorry went to delete mine and I deleted your "not yet....." by accident.
     
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  16. Always-Learning

    Always-Learning Trusted.Member

    That is always the response from those who have no prof of their stance themselves, is it not? Why do you think the people of Israel are massing and demanding Netanyahu step down and be held accountable for war crimes? It's not because of this one on going situation, it's because of all the fascist activity he is making happen in their name. What he is doing in the Gaza strip is exactly what Hitler was trying to do to them... annihilate every Palestinian, wither they are involved with Hamas or not.
     
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  17. buffyfan

    buffyfan Trusted.Member

    0.1% are protesting at best. Netanyahu can be removed at any time. It is almost like, when you tamper down the "Tens of thousands" Al-Jazeera claims (outside of CNN in the US and them every other source is thousands, not 10s of thousands)? If close the majority wanted him gone? They call a no confidence vote and remove him. They have literally done it at least twice before in his life. Israel has just a hair under 10 million. 10k is 0.1%. That is like saying that all of Brooklyn was protesting so OBVIOUSLY all of NY wants someone gone.

    If the majority are not Hamas or support them? They can EASILY overpower them, turn them over to authorities. They dont because, instead, they support Hamas. Israel gives them WARNINGS. Days advanced notice. 1

    Finally, just like the US? The ICC has about as much authority over Israel as they do over the US. NONE. They are tantamount, in this situation, to the local Sherrif who tells Federal LEOs that "I HAVE AUTHORITY HERE! I said so!". Israel never signed onto Rome. They are not bound by it, no matter how many times the ICC whines that any land (West Bank) that did grants them that authority. They are all hat and no cattle.
     
  18. Always-Learning

    Always-Learning Trusted.Member

    Everyone is against poor Israel and for Hamas, right? You'll forgive me but that leaves a stench in my nostrils... Israel has been going into the Gaza strip and taking farms away from Palestinian families since the UN gave them a piece of land. They were a nomadic tribe until the world took pity on then and seized land from others so they would have a home... They haven't had a home since they left Egypt... They lived in everyone else's country and tried to make it their own... Now don't get me wrong... what happened to them during WW2 was horrendous... But they are not the only people who have suffered that type of behavior. If it weren't for the fact so many think they are some kind of favored people by a god, what happened to them would have passed into history with no more than a footnote, just as it happened to the Native Americans in the US and other cultures.

    And why is that strip of land so important? It's not like there isn't enough land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River to house everyone comfortably. It's that the far right wing of Israel doesn't want peace with "those people". And yes, Netanyahu has been removed twice before for the same reason he is in trouble today. He is a modern day Hitler, bent on exterminating every living thing on the Strip that isn't Israeli, and he has his fascist right wing supporters on his counsel encouraging him to do it.

    Israel knew of the coming attack for over a year and still let it happen. If they hadn't, they couldn't have targeted the women and children as they have to insure no future generation rises up and does to Israel what she is doing to them now. Nothing can justify Israel's behavior. Refusing to allow food and aid into a holocaust of your creation is not just evil, it is grounds for removing those who implement it from the human race.
     
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  19. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    "Everyone is against poor Israel and for Hamas".
    No. People are not against Israel, not for Hamas. People are against IDF crimes, and against HAMAS terrorists.
    People are for the INNOCENT CIVILIANS in Palestine who are brutaly murdered by Israeli artillery and their troops, or recruited by HAMAS because these civilians, having lost family members, are desperate that NO ONE does anything against these crimes.
    If IDF stops occupying Gaza, stops slaughtering civilians, then maybe the civilians will stop joining HAMAS, and stop 'supporting' HAMAS.
    You wonder why some do support HAMAS? Its because NO ONE ELSE fights for Palestine.
     
  20. Always-Learning

    Always-Learning Trusted.Member

    I was making a generalized statement about how people are taking sides on this war. As it was pointed out, the Israeli people could demand that Netanyahu be removed immediately and show they stand against what is happening. But they aren't doing that as a nation. And yes I do understand that if they do stand up it will still take time to remove him. The difference is, if they would stand in solidarity to remove him, it would signal that the people want peace even if their leaders don't.

    When you said, If IDF stops occupying Gaza and slaughtering the civilians, then maybe the civilians will stop joining Hamas... you could not be more accurate. Israel has been taking land and killing Palestinians since they occupied their present position in 1948. And no one has stepped up to address the issue. The only ones who have done anything so far have been places like Iran, and their motive is not the Palestinian people, it is removing Israel.
     
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