2nd Amendment

I could care less that people have guns, should there be registration and checks? Yes. If you can have them that doesn't stop you. Do they need to fix the loop holes for registration? Lol yes.
Does the second amendment give you the right to own a rocket launcher? No,. Silencer? Suppressor? No. Should you be allowed to open carry? I don't care but it's stupid. I thought one day at Walmart pregnant, I could snatch their kid and make them give me their gun. Every state has a conceal carry permit,. Most won't because it requires them to prove they can use the gun.
No one gets nukes, don't care if you feel the right to carry makes you feel entitled. You want a suppressor or fully automatic? Get a licence. Also the m4 in the army is a shit gun, it was a shit gun when it was the m16. You think an ar15 makes you feel like your military remember, that shit jams in every climate. (This is from my retired uncle). Want a real gun? Buy a 7.62. Not only are the bullets cheaper but it shoots in any weather.

That being said if I'm in the middle of a shoot out in walmart,. I'm running. Unless you know who started it and in the wrong, don't try and help. (Arizona girl, shit stupid)
Also you may think open carry makes you less of a Target but if your robbed at gun point, give them the wallet. Nothing in there that can't be replaced and your not Doc Holliday

 

This scene always reminds me of Americans. No offense.

 

This is a gun we are not allowed to be sold to the public, moreover,
Lithgow (Lithgo, the "w" is silent) reversed its decision to sell a civilian verson in the USA. I am glad..I don't want to see a news report where some idiot has used "our" gun to kill 20 toddlers at a daycare centre.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...3C7FBA81D0BFDAF736C93C7&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

 

At first I thought it was a paint ball gun and I thought, yeah I could see some [edit] trying to shoot people with it

 

The elephant in the room that NO ONE wants to admit to is this - the real reason/purpose of the second amendment is to PROTECT the first amendment (freedom of speech and religion). The freedom of speech to question and criticize government officials (they work FOR us, not the other way around). It seems that most of them have forgotten THIS FACT!!!! No wonder the Democrats want to get rid of the 2nd amendment, THEY HATE TO BE QUESTIONED/CRITICIZED!!!!!!! After all they ARE the founding fathers of the KKK!!!! The south was traditionally democrat (all plantation/slave owners) and the north was republican (anti-slave). Those that forget the past will tend to repeat it!!!!!!!!

 

Registering guns is a GREAT idea. It worked out SO WELL for the Germans when Hitler took power!!! Even better for the Jewish population. First thing Hitler did was register and then confiscate all guns. There was not a constitution and the amendments to protect the people. Government exists TO SERVE the people, not the other way around as elected and appointed officials would have you believe. Nowadays, if you ask an elected official a (non-approved) question at any meeting (like in my town) you get arrested for any reason that is dreamed up. So much for freedom of speech! Civil war is going to be inevitable. The riots going on now are proof of that. And the dems/leftists and their brainwashing agenda (can we say common core) and the years of leftist teachings (from kindergarden through college) are THE cause of this.

 

I own guns and have a concealed carry permit. Despite that, I think the 2nd is terrible and needs to be clarified. Any law that depends on the placement of a comma to define the intent is problematic. Some versions have commas, some don't. People line up on the side supporting their POV. There's very little objectivity about the the intent and what the founders really had in mind. I get that the intent very well could have been to have an armed populace to protect their own freedoms. Regardless, the language of the 2nd is problematic. I would support repealing and replacing it with something less ambiguous. This won't happen in my lifetime or my kids'.

 

A well regulated militia is not a bunch of tubby goofs in thrift store camos wandering around with AR knockoffs. It is a military organisation with officers responsible to the civil authorities. It is trained and organised. When called out it is subject to military discipline.

 

I don't disagree. But there's the who dependant/independant clause argument because of the comma. The independent clause crowd considers the right to have guns clause that follows to not depend on the militia clause. It's obvious to me that it is dependent. If not, why is it on the amendment language?

 

That is 100% true.
Our elected officials have all forgotten that the 2nd allows us to pull together and take them out by force if they try to force
us into something like a dictatorship form of government.
The 2nd is there in order to keep the citizens armed at all times so that the leadership in government doesn't forget
they work for us.
The liberals and democrats know this all too well, that's why there are so bent on disarming all citizens.

 

To a liberal, anyone who thinks contrary to them is a "criminal" and must be silenced. Hence their support for ANTIFA and calling the riots "peaceful protests".

 

I know a number of conservatives who think that violent felons and crazy people should not have guns.

 

Your response doesn't make sense. Of course liberals aren't the only ones who want felons ( and FYI, ALL people who have a tendency for violence) to never own or handle firearms, All with a sane mind KNOW violent people should never have the ability to own a firearm.
That is a core belief of both Conservative and Liberal.

The problem lies (in which by your post you must be) is that Liberals want NO-ONE to own firearms. It is based in their belief that the government will always do what is best for the "people".

Conservatives KNOW that that the government needs to be held accountable to the people. Liberals such as yourself believe
the people need to to be accountable to the government.

 

American and their problem ha ha ha