Not a Troll post about American politics, from an European

Thank you, that was also very insightful . And no country has the same impact on the entire world. Be it trade or alliance politics. The Nato countries have all tript carefully around Trump in fear of losing the alliances most powerful and important member. With US military bases and prescens all over Europa, the politics in US is kinda important here also.

I stated in the start I'm in most cases Liberal, and that effects how I view Trump and the right wing politics in US. But I have truly come to know and like people with that political standpoint. And when you get to know people, there are often some well founded reasons for there beliefs and standpoint. I hate to se how devided the US are this days, and mabe always have been from time to time. They are to big to have politics that can feel relevant to many grupes and it always changes what grupes feel left out.

I really can understand how Trump for many can seem like a good choice when younare tired of politicians. And I do guess he even might have done some of the things he have promised. I still can't understand how people support him, but I am trying to, and this was the platform I hoped could do that.

In my country neo Nazis and other anti immigrant groups have more supporters then ever. When they have protests and meetings, there are always anti demonstrations and they are pyshicaly attacked. I hate to see that. It gives them publizety and sympathy. But most importantly, no one really listens. Because they should. They should stay silently and listen. And then make there case calmly and rassionaly.

To ignore and ridicule people of difrent views is always the wrong aproche. That never makes anyone change there view. Friendship and good calm friendly discussions on the other hand might.

A good day to you also

 

Sorry guys! I totally missed exactly what you were asking.
Pussycat and I both know how push each others buttons, all in fun though. I don't consider them arguments, but more of opinion banter.

Back on topic.....
The number one reason that Trump is so well like by conservatives is his stance and actions about abortions.
We conservatives have always believed that abortion is nothing less than murder unless it's done to save the life of the mother.
He has done more to promote that than any other president since the 1973 court decision of Roe v Wade.

We want our country to show the world that we will (and now are) not a pansy to be abused. We see Trump undoing all the
bad, and even un-constitutional executive orders by Obama and Clinton that all but gave away our sovereignty. Trump will never be abased by other countries into apologizing like Obama did.

Obama decimated our military availability of ammunitions. Almost as much as Clinton did. Ask any military officer who served during Clinton and they will tell you if any other large country were to invade us, we would have lost. Although Bush re-vitalized our military defense ability, Obama tried his best to dis-arm us.
Trump immediately upon taking office fixed that and now we are 1000% more secure against attack than the 8 years prior to his election.
We heave a sigh of relief that Trump won and did that and we don't want that progress to be abated.

We can trust Trump will do his best to fulfill his campaign promises. That's something no other elected official in our lifetime has done.

Hope this answers some of your question.

 

Oh , one more thing.

Trump is doing his best to keep us from changing from a republic into socialism like Biden openly admits to.

 

Pussycat, my direct apologies to you. Those last few post by you shows you have done your homework. I really like the observation by a non-USA person that the democrats are a brainwashed group. Even in our Supreme Court, it's only the liberal democrats that lock-step in all their votes. We conservatives have been saying that since Johnson and his Great Giveaway. (Officially the "Great Society")

Trump's nomination of conservative SC justices is a MAJOR reason we like him. Although he is the worst politician in history when it comes to speaking, he isn't afraid to say or do what he believes is the truth.

We like him because he has called out the media-bias and their twisting of facts, his "Fake News" terminology.

Yes we are still mainly a Christian based nation ( quickly becoming less and less so), and Trump wants to stop that.
Secularism is becoming such a major switch that Evangelicals are trying harder than ever to band together in the knowledge that since the USA has become more secular, it has experienced a great rise in violence and and crime. The "Everyman for himself" attitude.

I AM NOT saying Secularism promotes violence, it is working just fine in other countries, but in the USA, the Secularists are for the most part the reason for the upswing in crimes and Secularists are mainly democrat in their political position.
We like Trump because he understands that also. He had said so himself.

 

You pretty much have said it it correctly. I disagree with a couple of minor points, but mostl you have it right.

 

I voted for Ross Perot. If he is still alive maybe he should have been Trumps's VP.

 

Good written and clear reason why you and many like him, Thank you

 

Curmudgeon, exactly, but Trump is why a business man was elected into office when Perot wasn't.
The last business man elected into office was Jimmy Carter. By far the voted most horrible president elected in the 20th century. Problem was is that he was a small-business man.

Kingdark, Conservative Americans knew that we needed a business man in office and Trump is used to working in the mega bucks arena.
The liberals just wanted another yes-man, glib talking, politician who would try to fulfill their dream of turning our government into a form of socialism. as Pussycat stated " Democrat voters are brainwashed because, metaphorically, if you try to tell them the truth, they will stick their fingers in their ears and say la la la la la. ", no matter how history shows socialism always ends in the demise of a country.

 

Sorry Pussycat! It was a typo.
Meant to have typed Neophyte, not you!

 

Often Rebublicans and even Democrats use the word Sosialist in a negative term. All Scandinavian contries are. And if you do a quick google or wikipedia serarch, you will se we all do kinda great.
I was toying with the Idea of mabe making thread where you could ask questians about it, if you are curious. Could do it her also, if anyone wants to.

 

Out of curiosity, on a scale of extreme left (0) to the extreme right (10), where would you place ( Ilduce ) Mussolini?

 

Intresting question. I know you did not ask me. But fascisme have socialist economic ideas and politics, but at the same time controls the population in a manner we think of as far right.

So on an economic scale they are Centrum oriented, with an oppressive government form. One often think if NSDAP (nazi) Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (national socialist German workers party) , it sounds a bit left dont it.... and it was!
And Musolini and the Italian facist where not Nazis, but the Nazis where fascist. Mussolini did not like the Germans focus on race and tought it conter productive. And they wher not to enthusiastic about hunting Jews, but they did, to some extend.

It is in my mind a bit hard to place the facist on a 1 to 10 scale.