Florida Shooting

Very Sad. Another shooting at a school again. Haven't seen or heard any fucking Liberals getting on the gun control bandwagon yet. The bastard should have a gun put in his mouth and pull the trigger. I wonder if they're going to say that he was abused when he was a child and he should able to get counseling to help him.

 

The gun controllers were all over it before the bodies were carried away.

This morning will be worse

toy

 

Thank you for your reply. He's being held with no bond and possibly they will seek the death penalty. If it comes to that I hope they don't wait to long before they kill the bastard.

 

Not trying to be a smart ass, but the gun lobby will probably try and get rid of schools in order to prevent it from happening again.
They will never give up their fucking guns.

 

Or maybe we could make laws against murder and people would stop. Oh, wait, we already have those.

Banning anything won't make it stop, guns or schools.

 

This is a cultural issue first
Guns have been here for a long time, but the people have changed
participation trophies made it so kids did not have to learn how to lose.

 

We had masses of guns banned here in Oz, at the time I told my wife:" Now watch the knives come out and sadly they did.
2-3 people are stabbed every day/night. Many do not survive.
What it needs is a mass clean out of human garbage.

 

Its not the gun. Its the idiot that's holding it.

 

Great - so let's arm the idiots with AK-47's ! Then get all the other idiots to think that it's a good idea !!

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gun's are just a tool , it's the same as a hammer or a knife or a car . cars kill more people than gun's . but can you imagine the uproar if you try to ban car's to save people's live's . any person who tried to do that would be locked up and called insane . and as for banning gun's , then only the people that don't follow the law will have then . bad people will always find a way to do bad thing's .

 

Exactly. The only time anyone blames the tool being used is when guns are involved. It's asinine.

 

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" Guns don't kill people - people kill people. "

Such a lovely intellectual expression - so how's it been working out so far ?

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It's not just an intellectual 'expression', it's the truth.
Countries that have banned guns have seen a rise in stabbings. People are still dying at the hands of criminals with weapons, so how's that working out so far? How many laws banning their tools have actually been proven to prevent the crime taking place? I'd wager not a single one, because when a person is determined to hurt people, laws are not going to stop them, a lack of tools will not stop them, they will use their bare hands, if it suits them (or a car, mind you, which has been on the rise in the world. Perhaps we should ban motor vehicles then?).

Perhaps instead of pointing fingers, society should try to come up with a solution to the problem, preferably one that actually maintains people's rights and freedoms, and afford them the ability to protect themselves, rather than rely on a police force that cannot possibly get there fast enough to prevent the death of an innocent.
If every citizen were armed, and trained to properly use a firearm safely and responsibly, crime would drop dramatically, and this is proven by areas of the US where guns are not banned, versus areas that are 'gun-free' zones.

 

The NRA isn't 110 people sitting in a building outside of Washington DC. It's an organization of 6 million Americans who donate money to protect gun rights, offer safe shooter training and support recreational gun use. Blaming the NRA is like blaming the Sierra Club for the Unibomber.

If you want to ban guns, then change the constitution. Eventually, that will happen, but probably will take another 20 or 30 years. By then, the indoctrination of the kids will have taken hold. It won't just be guns that are banned however. It will be any speech that the government doesn't like. And any food or beverage that the government doesn't like. And any jobs that the government doesn't like. Without a moral tether and populace that appreciates limited government, the US has the capacity to the be most ruthless, immoral government/county the world has ever known. If the military-industrial complex of this country was ever married to liberal ideology, it would be mind-boggling nasty.

 

When someone can kill 17 people in a school with a knife in 2 minutes, or murder 60 people and injure 200 people from a hotel window with a knife, then we can talk about banning knives.

In Australia they banned guns and there hasn't been a mass shooting since.

Suicide rates are also proven to decline when guns are banned.

Make it harder and it becomes harder.

I'd rather hear about 2 people dying from a stabbing in a school than hear about someone murdering two dozen schoolchildren week in, week out.

What is it going to take? Gun culture has fucked your entire country. You used to be a laughing stock, but now we're too outraged and depressed at your fucking stupidity and stubbornness as a nation.

For shame, America

 

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I am an American, as are the good folks of Argentina, Peru, and Brazil as well. Mexico too. America is a big place - two continents with lots of countries.

And I am bloody sick and tired of one small part of America calling itself all of America - it's simply for self-aggrandizement, and it casts a shadow on the rest of us.

Please stop.

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Knives are just as deadly as a bullet, in some cases, even more dangerous because it doesn't go BANG the second it's used, which means people only know if something's wrong if the victim can cry out. But in cases where the area has a lot of noise and chatter, such as a subway no-one is going to take that sound seriously, assuming they hear it at all!
Let's talk about real statistics here. There was a mass knife attack in Texas, that resulted in at least 14 stabbings. That's a hell of a lot more than your projected "2", and in case of a knife, it's going to be a lot more accurate than a flying bullet because the perp is holding it, and can get up close and personal.
There was a mass stabbing in japan, at a home for the disabled, where at least 19 people were murdered, and 26 more were hurt. That's a far cry from your projected "2" fatalities as well. (ONE gun owning worker could have stopped the psycho before all that death)

Let's talk about cars.
Cars kill an outstandingly fuck-ton more people than even shooters do, but I don't hear you crying to have cars banned.
"There were 34,439 fatal motor vehicle crashes in the United States in 2016 in which 37,461 deaths occurred. This resulted in 11.6 deaths per 100,000 people and 1.16 deaths per 100 million miles traveled. The fatality rate per 100,000 people ranged from 4.0 in the District of Columbia to 23.1 in Mississippi. The death rate per 100 million miles traveled ranged from 0.66 in Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Rhode Island to 1.88 in South Carolina."
Source: (Click Me)

Car culture has apparently killed far more than alleged "gun culture" has, so when are you going to complain about cars? Afterall, cars are not actually needed to survive, one can simply use a bicycle. If you care so much about the "staggering numbers" of deaths related to guns, why aren't you outraged by deaths by car, or for that matter, the numbers of knife deaths above (which also proved the concept you asked for in your opening statement)?

I'm not asking for much, just some consistency on your part(s).
Furthermore, wouldn't you rather people be able to defend themselves, than be helpless when these attacks occur?

 

Immigrants, both legal and illegal, travel thousands of miles to get to the USA. They risk their lives and fortunes for the hope of the American dream. The illegals are so driven, they are willing to live on the fringes of society surviving on American scraps, because it is still better than where they came from.

When the good folks of Argentina, Peru, and Brazil can say that, then they will be out from the shadow of the USA.

USA casts a shadow because it is the shining star of the free world.