Could Trump win again?

Yeah his actions affect the whole world!
He's stopping all the countries from fucking us over, and they don't like it one bit!
Bout time we had a president who puts our nation first.

 

As opposed to the lying, cheating, racist, misandrist, childish losers in the Democrat party? Which lying, cheating, racist, misandrist childish loser would you prefer? The full blown communist, or the child groper?

 

Hitler was Germany first. Stalin was Soviet first. Mao was China first. Putin is Russia first. That went well didn't it?

Unless the presidents succeding him do a 180 and do some serious damage control. Trump is going to be remembered as the president that started the US decline as the world's powerhouse. He's going to be remembered as the American Neville Chamberlain.

 

You have a few facts there wrong.
Lenin was the first for the USSR, ie; the first soviet and the first communist.

Mao Zedong was the first totalitarian for China, Mao just redirected the totalitarian state
to communistic state.

Here in the US, I would say Washington is the first. Lincoln is one then by your examples
of first.
Roosevelt was another first by finally listening to Harold Wisely and moved to action
upon the Upton book "The Jungle". Which opened the USDA to prosecutable actions
against food manufactures who tainted public food.
Kennedy was another first.
Johnson another, with his Great Giveaway.

As far as Trump goes, He is just finishing up the work started by Ronald Reagan.
SO Trump really isn't a first, he's a closer and completer.

And I would say "All those 'firsts' were great achievements by great achievers"!
And I would also say, " Yes, that went well" to OUR firsts.[/QUOTE]

 

My post flew over your head. My point was that just like Trump "puts America first". Hitler put Germany first. Stalin put Soviet first. Mao put China first. And Putin puts Russia first. It didn't go that well for any of them. What made the US the leading nation in the world over the last century, was that most former US Presidents put the world first. In strong contrast to those mentioned above.

Sadly, Trump will most likely be reelected.

 

All through the 2016 election, ALL of the media reported on were the controversies they could drum up and concentrated on bolstering those narratives. Meanwhile, what Trump was SAYING with promises at the time were truths that were resonating. For years people just knew that the America we grew up knowing was being sold out. Great factories shuttered. Never quite being able to put a finger on it because both parties had a hand in it. He commanded great crowds at rallies back then and today. The media never reported that by turning their own blind eye. But people just knew Trump had something that was different. Despite being hounded with disdain day in and day out with the smallest distractions he's outlasted the best of them with what he accomplished. Put simply, he's connected with the people of America whether you like him or not.

Until I see any other Democratic candidate who can pull in crowds like he can, I have no worries about re-election.

 

Oh yeah... definitely unbiased here... But let me ask you this: Which president did NOT have politics that didn't affect the world?

There is a reason why the USD is one of the "standards" that other countries judge the health of their economy on. Trump understands this better than most politicians. His work for the past term has all the tell-marks of someone doing the job properly. What did you expect the other countries to do when they finally get called out to be cheating the US for the last several decades? "Oh you caught us... sorry... we won't do that again"?

China finally admits that they've been boning us over since the WB-8 contracts were first created and gave precedence for every other country to take advantage of it.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not a PRO-TRUMP gung-ho person. I'm a PRO-PEOPLE of the USA kind of person. D or R doesn't matter to me. What I do care about is whether or not the person can LEAD, keep perspective of what the "American dream" is for the time, and provide a way for advancing the people as a whole.

What damage control? That the world is mad at us for finally standing up for ourselves economically? Last I checked, much of the world has been at at the US for a LONG time. But rather than try and work with the US and tap into the resources fairly, they attempt to subvert or attack the US.

Hitler wasn't Germany first... Hitler was Hitler first. He didn't listen to his generals, isolated himself more and more to where the generals could not even speak to him to GIVE their advice. He had little regard to listening to the people and when people did not agree with his perspective, they became part of the ignored.

Stalin was more of an old school Kim Jung Un. "It's not what my country is, but what it SHOULD be... and I'll rule it with an iron fist to make sure it behaves like it"

I don't think I need to go through the others, but simply put, regardless of Trump's social establishment, I think he's done a relatively admirable job and I hope whomever has the office next term (him or someone else) will keep in mind that this is a job where he/she is being hired by the PEOPLE and that it is a temp job at that.

If they have little capital experience (meaning they have been paid by a government entity most of their career), then they are not qualified to lead people with private lives and private businesses.

 

The world can envy and hate us without getting our money. Screw the politics of open borders. We are not the saviours of every third world crap hole.

America is not trying to take over the world like Putin, Mao, stalin, Hitler, and most of the other world powers.

Haters got to hate, and Trump has upset the apple cart of the status quo.

 

I see flaws but nothing that's disqualifying my vote. I'm a free American and can vote for whom I chose. I'm not a fish so your unwarranted add hock putdown has no relevance. Given your origins I'm wondering why you think you have a dog in the hunt anyway.

 

She doesn't have a "dog in the hunt", but she does bring a relatively fresh perspective of what the world knows and thinks about us , and that affects how we (can) operate with/without them... we may be our own country, but we hardly operate that way. Every aspect of our lives is dependent/co-dependent on the efforts of other countries.

Made in China, Made in Taiwan, Made in the Philippines, Made in Japan, Made in Mexico... Made in the USA

The world operates because the world operates together... Those that do not (N.Korea) are stuck in developments or take MASSIVE costs for said technologies.

 

Good fences make good neighbors and still the wheels of commerce will always stay greased. I have no worries about Justin or really even care. That said, others can live too without being a busy body about what goes on here. That's all I'm saying.

 

My I point out that my posts are just general opinions and I was the one who refrained from calling anyone names and using backhanded insults to others here.
Your point exactly, take it.

"To Trump and his nation of sheep"
"And you fell for it, hook, line and sinker"
"just a bunch of yappy mutts on the other side of the fence".

 

One of the major problems society has today is civility.
If you have a different opinion then it’s ok to be nasty to each other and call individuals names.
If you disagree with me I expect you to be respectful about it.
We all are t going to agree every time but we can respect each other

 

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Okay people, let's cool this down before it get's too deep and personal.

Comments about people in general = okay
Comments about a person specifically = not okay

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Politics specifically aside, I think Trump will be find for keeping the office for one more term. Those who complain often do not do anything about it to stop said complaints. Those who matter do not speak up until it comes down to the wire and somebody else notices.

Right now, those who "matter" are siding with Trump. Most of them are business oriented people more than workers. Typical workers do not often see the back-end that businesses need to keep running to stay in business.

I used to work in the communications world, so we'll use the cell phone bill as an example.
Take a typical cell phone bill. MOST people pay their bill (loading isn't a regular thing in the USA) and move on from there. If you ask them who does that bill go to specifically, most would have no clue or answer "the top guy" in one form or another. What they don't USUALLY think about is that a typical cell phone bill is split ON AVERAGE 7--10 ways. From the owner of the store/kiosk/channel that the CONTRACT was coordinated, to the franchise distributer, etc.

Those that "matter" think about all the aspects of keeping the machine known as the United States of America running and take all of that into account when it comes to choosing a leader.

The rest may make an opinion/complaint, but rarely have a viable and/or functioning solution for the situation that may appear.