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A Conservatives view of Liberals

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by Neophyte, Mar 13, 2018.

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  1. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    Thanks for the directions, I wouldn't want to get lost.
     
  2. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    Liberals believe that the individual is the most important, but the group bares the most responsibility for their actions.

    Conservatives believe the group is the most important, but the individual bares the responsibility for their actions.
     
  3. Neophyte

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  4. Insp Gadget

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  6. Dreofanarchy

    Dreofanarchy Uncle looking for his niece

    Normally I’m a centrist where I see values from both left and right. However I’ve gone to the far left in response to the rights dive into the fascist ideals.

    The conservatives/republicans of today aren’t what the party stood for. Fiscal conservatives is what they are supposed to be. Not spending so much money, tax breaks for the middle and lower classes and fundamental tax spending. The republicans/conservatives of today are not for the working class, they are for the rich and if a conservative can’t see that then they are lost
     
  7. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    If you go and check out the policies of the Major Fascist Countries of the early 1900's(Germany, Italy and Spain) you will find that their Fascist's policies align perfectly with the Liberal/Democrat Party.
     
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  8. Brutus58

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    That's the Gods honest truth!!!!!
     
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  9. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    May I slightly adjust your quote to.... "That's God's honest truth !" ?

    ( that ought to get the liberals riled. they all love people's 'gods', but they demand one can't claim just one true God.
    they will all one day find out that He exists whether they say so not)

    The liberals of the world hate history because it shows just how dangerous their views and actions are.
     
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  10. Brutus58

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    Thank you for correcting my English. Otherwise I am in complete agreement.
     
  11. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    Unintended Consequences, how people deal with them. You my disagree with what I say, but this is what I see. Liberals and Conservatives deal with Unintended Consequences differently. Liberals tend to ignore unintended consequences or decide that they will deal with it later when they appear. Conservative tend to avoid unintended consequences when they can foresee them and not take the initial action. So what does these to philosophy's lead to. The Liberal method creates a more chaotic environment, the longer it continues the more chaotic the situation becomes. Change can come from the chaos, but if unrestricted everything becomes worse. The Conservative method creates a more ordered environment, the longer it continues the more ordered things become. In the long run the order turns into rigidity and stagnation. In my view, to have a healthy society you need a lot of Order and a little Chaos.
     
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  12. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    Order creates limits.
    Chaos creates opportunity.

    The world is a disaster. It needs a reset.

    I vote for chaos.

    ;)
     
  13. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    Unintended consequences. angry-mob.gif
     
  14. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Is that vote intended or unintended?
     
  15. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    Let me explain. You (as in you, collectively) have been top dog for a long time. Centuries. I'm talking about white males, the ones who are here and now, attacking everything progressive / liberal / democrat / socialist, basically anything that doesn't suit your "conservative" position. I totally understand. The world is changing and you feel threatened. Your position of being the masters of your domain is under attack (from your viewpoint). You want everything to stay as it is (better still, roll it back a generation or two). If I were a white male, I might feel the same way.

    I'm not a white male.

    I vote for chaos.

    Cheers

    :):)
     
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  16. Brutus58

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    I completely understand your point of view. "Chaos" does bring change. Chaos, just like a tsunami or an avalanche brings change. Problem is some humans get totally screwed over in the process. The number of white males (and redhead females) are dwindling. When will that cliche about "white male supremacy" go away. When we are all gone, who will get blamed then - Obama? Don't think so.
     
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  17. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    I am not a white male. You are mistaken about that and many other things. I see whats going on in our politics and I understand what the ramifications are. Unlike a lot of people I look past the immediate gratification. The problem with Chaos is that a lot of people die, with Order a lot of people are bored.
     
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